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“How will you stop police from killing black people?”

Thoughtful and tough questions at times packed more of a punch than the answers, at forum for Baltimore mayoral candidates

Above: Community organizer J. C. Faulk at the Baltimore Impact Hub forum.

Some big urgent questions about Baltimore were asked of mayoral candidates assembled at Station North Wednesday.

How would you bring equity to a city still recovering from a hundred-year-old legacy of legally-mandated housing segregation? How would you fix Baltimore’s chronically under-performing school system and make sure new spending isn’t wasted?

What is your five-year vision for the city? they were asked, at the Baltimore Impact Hub forum,

But with 11 people on the stage and a second forum scheduled elsewhere later in the evening – and with one minute allotted per answer  – rhetoric, talking-points and catchphrases often seemed to prevail.

One moment that cut through the static was not an answer, but a question, posed by activist J.C. Faulk:

“How will you stop police from killing black people in this city?”

Audience at the Baltimore Impact Hub listening to mayoral candidates at a forum. (Photo by Fern Shen)

After a tough year in Baltimore, there was big interest in what mayoral candidates had to say. (Photo by Fern Shen)

(At this point the moderators switched to 30-seconds for each answer, a shift which didn’t set well with Faulk.)

Councilman Nick Mosby went first, ticking off a couple of policy points.

“First we need to stop these gag orders. . .the non-disparagement agreements where someone does something to someone in the city of Baltimore [and] they are not allowed to talk about it after they get a civil lawsuit,” he said.

He also called for “more teeth in the civilian review board” and promised body cameras and dashboard cameras “for every single patrol officer” within his first 100 days in office.

Fellow Councilman Carl Stokes kept it fiery and brief:

“Arrest and convict them. Arrest and convict them. Not just for killing, but for brutalizing citizens,” he said, joining Mosby with the call for “no gag orders.”

“What People Applauded”

When his turn came, David Warnock began by intoning: “Training and selection – it starts with training and selection.”

He cited having more police officers who live in the city, more foot patrols, equipping officers with “body cameras, obviously” and promoting from within.

“We are not going to Oakland to get the chief of police in my administration,” he said, winding up with “we need to change the culture of the police department.”

Patrick Gutierrez called likewise for “a massive culture change,” and said officers should be given clear expectations and held accountable for wrongdoing.

But what got Guttierez big applause was when he cited a recent example – the high-ranking Baltimore police union official who was reassigned from street patrol after a coalition of city activists demanded his firing for what they said were offensive tweets posted to his personal Twitter account.

Gutierrez even recited the specific policy, “section 6.2,” that would allow the mayor to terminate the officer, Lt. Victor Gearhart.

“So it’s there,” he said. “We just need a mayor who’s going to be strong enough to stand up and use those [provisions] to get them out.”

“Occupiers of Communities”

Here’s what Elizabeth Embry had for Faulk.

“So fundamentally it’s about how we ask our police to interact with communities and right now we’re asking police to be invaders of communities, to be occupiers of communities,” she said. “Police have to be partners, they have to be public servants.”

She called for body cameras (they all did) and a change in the way police are recruited and trained and in “the way we hold police accountable for their actions, for their brutality, for their misconduct.”

Participants in the durum, addressed by (r) moderator Rodney Foxworth. (Photo by Fern Shen)

Participants in the durum, addressed by (r) moderator Rodney Foxworth. (Photo by Fern Shen)

Josh Harris also spoke about training, having “a true community policing model” and having the community involved “from the training and recruitment of officers all the way through substantive review upon infractions.”

(At this point he confessed to losing his train of thought and told people to “talk to me afterwards.”)

From Gersham Cupid, a candidate who is a police officer, came a relatively brief answer.

“You have to convict them and you have to punish them – period,” he said.  “Convict and punish officers that murder not just blacks but any residents of our city.”

Cindy Walsh didn’t say what she would do, but dwelt on the fact that responsibility for the police ultimately rests with the mayor: “so when we yell at the police commissioner for such egregious situations we are yelling at the City Hall, at the mayor.”

Acknowledging “a lot of common-sense things we’ve all said,” Calvin Young used his 30 seconds to say the answer to Faulk’s question lies in tackling “root causes.”

“How many young black men don’t have jobs and as a result have to sell drugs?” he said. “They don’t have the education to get the jobs.”

Pugh and Dixon

How would the two seasoned pols at the end of the lineup answer Faulk?

“I believe that you have to try and convict,” said Sen. Catherine Pugh. “Open up the trial boards so the public can participate” and have more officers who live in the city, she said.

Also on her list: cultural diversity training and psychiatric evaluations of officers.

As for Dixon, she too promised body cameras and said:

Sen. Catherin Pugh (facing camera) and others awaiting the start of Impact Hub forum. (Photo by Fern Shen)

Sen. Catherin Pugh (facing camera) and others awaiting the start of Impact Hub forum. (Photo by Fern Shen)

“Our civilian review board is going to have professional staff so if a civilian wants to send a picture through a camera or email or letter or call, they can send that information.”

Substantively, there was not much else from the former mayor, aside from “mental health services” for officers on the force and in the police academy.

On this answer, though, she continued speaking well past her allotted time. Moderators called “Time!” and fellow candidates pointed to their watches, while audience members coughed and guffawed. Finally Dixon, with a sheepish smile, stopped.

ISO: New Ideas

Despite the challenging format, the forum gave speakers ample opportunity, with moderators’ other questions, to show off some fresh ideas or approaches.

“How will you incorporate racial equity into the design of your policies and into the evaluation so that you know they’re working?” moderator Lawrence Lanahan asked.

(Translation: “Convince us you won’t take the same tired approaches as city leaders have in the past that sound good, but do little.”)

“Let’s take different departments,” Dixon began.

Dixon said she would recruit police officers who live in the city and “increase training money” to help people “coming out of [being] incarcerated to be able to get jobs in the IT industry, etc.”

She also mentioned “enhancing the living wage for city employees to $15-an-hour” and enhancing MBE and WBE programs. (Minority-owned and woman-owned business enterprises.)

60 Long Seconds

Pugh as always filled her minute with an uninterrupted string of public policy catchphrases.

“We need affordable housing but we also need middle and upper income housing in our city,” she said. “If we want to grow our city it’s got to be diverse. It’s got to be inclusive. It’s got to provide for everyone.”

Baltimore needs to keep senior citizens and “our milleniums [sic], 18 to 34,” from moving out of the city, she said, winding up with this:

“We’ve got to build better schools, we’ve got to create neighborhoods where everyone can live and we’ve got to be more inclusive in our decisions and our opportunities and create the jobs for everyone that wants to work, even our young people, believe it or not many of them need to work even after school and we need to make those connections with our business communities and our young people, a city for all people, inclusive of all kinds of housing. Thank you.”

You Want a Tax Break?

Warnock’s approach to equity? He began with requiring developers to spend money to help communities in return for the lucrative tax subsidies known as TIFs and PILOTs.

“I’ve told the biggest developer in town that in my administration, you cannot harvest the fruits of the Inner Harbor without planting seeds in East and West Baltimore,” Warnock said, adding that he would require any TIF or PILOT recipient to build and maintain a recreation center.

Harris warmed to the topic of tax breaks, and givebacks, citing a recent example.

He touted his efforts as a Southwest Baltimore activist to help win a “community benefits agreement” in return for the $17.5 million TIF  the city is awarding the real estate company developing a project at the University of Maryland BioPark.

Baltimore Impact Hub mayoral forum. (Photo by Fern Shen)

Baltimore Impact Hub mayoral forum. (Photo by Fern Shen)

If it hadn’t been an election year, he said, “I don’t know what would have happened.”

“We need CBAs with every single TIF,” Mosby said, when his turn came. “It’s unfortunate we have not done this to date.” He talked about housing that had not increased in value in decades and pointed listeners to the 15-point plan on his website.

Stokes’ answer on the equity question was to say that, if elected, he would end the practice of granting waivers (at the weekly Board of Estimates meetings) to contractors who say they cannot meet woman and minority hiring requirements.

Embry, on equity, kept it general speaking of the “staggering disparities” in Baltimore, “the fact that a child born in Roland park has a life expectancy 20 years greater than a child born in parts of West Baltimore and South Baltimore.”

“These are unbelievable disparities,” she said, “and that has to be the lens through which we view all public policy.”

What Dixon Did

Speaking of tax subsidies, Dixon was asked specifically about TIFs and PILOTS and how she would leverage them to benefit citizens across the city.

She answered without hesitation: “I’ll give you two examples.”

Rather than describe future plans, she opted to recount the tax breaks she green-lighted during her time as mayor, though she left out the more controversial ones.

(Those would be the $13.6 million PILOT for her then boyfriend-Ron Lipscomb’s Harbor East apartment project and the biggest-ever TIF for the Westport project then being developed by Patrick Turner, who famously left gift cards at City Hall which Dixon used for personal purchases.)

For the crowd of about 250 people Wednesday, Dixon talked about the Hilton Hotel negotiations: “TIFs and bonds” in return for “jobs and opportunities” and “a specialized person assigned to find jobs” for people in the community.

Similar negotiations took place around the TIF awarded for Mondawmin Mall, she said, including benefits for Frederick Douglas High School across the street.

“We were able to open up the pool at Douglas,” she said, “we were able to renovate some of the rooms at Douglas, we were able to give Douglas a music class with instruments.”

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